{"id":859,"date":"2018-08-06T09:00:36","date_gmt":"2018-08-06T13:00:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/designinglight.com\/?p=859"},"modified":"2018-08-05T17:39:41","modified_gmt":"2018-08-05T21:39:41","slug":"tm-30-and-daylight","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/designinglight.com\/?p=859","title":{"rendered":"TM-30 and Daylight"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>An architect recently emailed me asking if it was possible to use TM-30 metrics with daylight. \u00a0My short answer was something like, &#8220;I suppose you could, but why would you?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The long answer is that all of the TM-30 measurements (Rf, Rg, the 16 chroma shifts, the 16 hue shifts) are relative &#8211; comparing the light source in question with the reference light source. \u00a0With daylight, you&#8217;d be comparing the daylight SPD you captured at a moment in time with the CIE definition of daylight at the same CCT. \u00a0On an average day I doubt that any of the measurements would deviate from 100 by more than a couple of points. \u00a0So, using TM-30 (or CRI Ra) is like measuring a ruler with another ruler. \u00a0You&#8217;re essentially comparing one thing to a definition of itself.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An architect recently emailed me asking if it was possible to use TM-30 metrics with daylight. \u00a0My short answer was something like, &#8220;I suppose you could, but why would you?&#8221; The long answer is that all of the TM-30 measurements (Rf, Rg, the 16 chroma shifts, the 16 hue shifts) are relative &#8211; comparing the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/designinglight.com\/?p=859\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">TM-30 and Daylight<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[8],"tags":[27,26,68],"class_list":["post-859","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-daylighting","tag-color-rendering","tag-cri","tag-tm-30"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4gZSw-dR","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1650,"url":"https:\/\/designinglight.com\/?p=1650","url_meta":{"origin":859,"position":0},"title":"What is the Reference Illuminant?","author":"Jason Livingston","date":"May 11, 2021","format":false,"excerpt":"Over the past few months I\u2019ve had a manufacturer, a sales rep, and a lighting designer all tell me they think CRI compares a light source to daylight.\u00a0\u00a0When I tried to correct one of them the reply was an acknowledgment that an incandescent source is normally used, but daylight can\u2026","rel":"","context":"In \"color rendering\"","block_context":{"text":"color rendering","link":"https:\/\/designinglight.com\/?tag=color-rendering"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":780,"url":"https:\/\/designinglight.com\/?p=780","url_meta":{"origin":859,"position":1},"title":"The Advantages of TM-30","author":"Jason Livingston","date":"October 30, 2017","format":false,"excerpt":"In this series of posts about IES TM-30-15 I've discussed the problems with CRI and the resistance to adopting TM-30. \u00a0In this post I'll discuss the advantages of TM-30 over CRI, and what TM-30 is and isn't. 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